Thursday, April 9, 2009

Military as Institution

Using the last three tasks of an institution (3. Producing, distributing, consuming goods and services 4. Preserving order 5. Providing and maintain a sense of purpose) show how Dyer gives examples for two of these three tasks. Please give detail about how this comes across in the military. After you have given an example from the reading, give any other examples from your own knowledge and observation as well.

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  1. 3. The main function of the military as an institution is to produce trained warriors capable of killing. It must strip the in place values of its recruits and instill the tools necessary to be a legal killer. The US military is also a big consumer, with large portions of the US budget reserved for it.
    4. Another big component of the military is preserving order. They have a long history in this and recruits learn this from day one. New recruits are on the lowest rung, and are treated accordingly by those who have seniority. The military has a well established chain of command and in some cases if you fail to listen to your superior you will end up being court marshalled. In basic training, the new recruits are taught by the older, experienced men, men who have had something the new recruits can respect-a successful military career.
    -Andrew

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  2. fisrst of all, i think that dyer is against the purpose (sevices) of the military industry based on the quote at the beggining. he things that its very bad to kill people, and that the military brainwashes people into doing things that they will probably regret. however, the military is a very important part of human history, and people have killed eachothert since the beggining of humanity. there is almost always a clear purpose: in this day and age, the military kills people in order to preserve order. i personally believe that the government that controles the military is extremely corupt, but they managed to convince a large percent of the population that they are still maintaining order. the author of the artice was very far about it though, and its proabably good that his opinions arent as bias as mine.
    -brendan

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  3. 3. Dyer gives several examples of how the military and the marines in particular produce, distribute, and consume goods and services. Coming from the text, basic training organization is a machine. There job is to turn ordinary cilivians into efficient military personnal. They distribute these military personnal throughout the world to serve and protect. This task of an institution is easy to identify in the military.
    4. In the military order is key. The is very well-established sense of order. It starts at the top and works its way all the way to the bottom of the food chain. They preserve order within the military itself and also in the world outside the base.


    - Jack.

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  4. in the text Dyer talks about how the military produces warriors. the break them down to build them up. from the first day to the last they play mind games. slowly bonding them together and building comrodery. the military consumes a lot of goods i.e. guns, ammo, clothes ect.

    in the military, soldiers are taught to follow the chain of command. anyone in a higher rank than you has power over you. most new soldiers are young and most drill instructors are older so they are thought to be wiser. it is basic instinct to listen to your elders.
    -jacob g

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  5. 3. The Goods in the institution are soldiers, the services is Protection by Killing, and they do this very efficiently, we already talked about Recruiting and that is a major factor, and a lot of it is honor and pride passed down from generations, the goods are killing machines, they can automatically go to war as efficient as a machine can, through months of physical and mental training they are taught to react at any situation that they may encounter in war, mental is 10 times the physical, the physical training is actually just a part of the mental in many different ways, how the DI talks to the recruit is based on his ability to handle drills, he can break him down and build him up and manipulate him, manipulate to conform, to band together, to have an automatic reaction to throw himself in harms way, to handle himself in any situation that may come his way in battle. Making the good a machine, an auto-marine, efficient at what it does. The military i believe also makes a lot of money with another good called Guns. selling to countries at war to an inflated price because we pump them out at an amazing right and they are some of the best only available by us, that was a recent issue but i havent heard a lot recently.
    4. Preserving order is done rather easily by the drill instructor, the DI is a powerful, wise, terrifying, and admirable figure to the recruits, this personification is also a neecessity to the mental training of the recruits, if one fails he is ridculed and has a shredded sense of self respect and confidence almost as bad as the dispise coming from the rest of the group that has to pay for your inability to do what they are, so they will undoubtedly obey and conform to a militant authority figure, and from what i saw if you dont conform and do well the others will beat you with bars of soap inside thier socks.
    5. the sense of purpose again is mostly an instictual thing, wheather it be pride in elders that fought for the same thing before you or your ancestors that fought hand and hand like animals, i mean damn have you seen gladiator? braveheart? 300? or in the modern case Blackhawk Down? Hamburger Hill? Saving Private Ryan? Protector? Rambo? if you are succesful you'll be a killing macine, say some terrorist are invading the building your in down you want to be the John McClain who can handle the day and save it? you could not get pushed around anymore, you learn how to be a man, the DI will say, the only voice you're hearing really while your thier is that of the DI's who is constantly praising the Marine's and is calling you a useless sack of shit untill you become one.

    Chali O.^^^^

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